David Silva and Andrei Arshavin: Just Another Big Question
David Silva and Andrei Arshavin: Just Another Big Question
There has been debate recently about who (if anyone) Barcelona should buy for the vacant left wing spot, a position that should only be considered vacant if one does not believe Andres Iniesta is capable of filling in for a year or more. I personally subscribe to the idea that we have a very loaded [...]
There has been debate recently about who (if anyone) Barcelona should buy for the vacant left wing spot, a position that should only be considered vacant if one does not believe Andres Iniesta is capable of filling in for a year or more. I personally subscribe to the idea that we have a very loaded squad, but our depth is shallowest at the left wing position, meaning there is room to bring in a good name (not necessarily a big one) to fill in when Iniesta can’t step up or has another role to fill.
The names being bandied about most are Valencia’s David Silva and Zenit St. Petersburg’s Andrei Arshavin. Most readers are familiar with both, especially after this latest European Championship, which put both high on several transfer lists. However, is it possible to quantify their value in the same manner that we were able to discuss Samu and Titi? Because they’re midfielders and, indeed, are different styles of midfielders, the approach must necessarily be at least slightly different from the approach to comparing two very similar strikers.
I will first do a statistical comparison using as much information as possible, noting where the information comes from the ever-reliable Wikipedia or from the quite incomplete Soccernet stats, especially for Arshavin.
David Silva joined Valencia’s first team in 2004, but immediately went on loan to Segunda Division side SD Eibar, where, according to Wikipedia, he appeared in 35 games, scoring 5 (0.143 goals per game). After that he spent a year at Celta de Vigo, appearing in 34 games, scoring 4 goals (0.118 goals per game). After that, he became a regular starter for Valencia, appearing in 70 league games over the last 2 years, scoring 9 times (0.129 goals per game).
Silva has appeared in a total of 93 games for Valencia in all competitions, scoring a total of 14 goals (0.151 goals per game). He seems to do his best work in the Champions League, having appeared in 19 games, scoring 4 goals (0.211 goals per game).
On to Arshavin, whose stats are hard to find, so I’ll stick entirely with Wikipedia for the league stats. Since 2000, Arshavin has appeared in 217 domestic games for Zenit, scoring 47 goals (0.217 goals per game). According to his very incomplete Soccernet stats page, however, he appeared in 27 league games in 06/07 without scoring a single goal. It’s hard to believe that, but there it is.
The UEFA stats are a bit different than the league stats: 18 games, 6 goals (0.333 goals per game), meaning that overall, Arshavin has appeared in 235 games for Zenit, scoring 53 goals (0.226 goals per game). Still, his UEFA stats are much better, suggesting, like it does with Silva, that there is more quality there than is displayed in the league games.
But what of playmaking? It seems to be generally accepted that Arshavin is much more of a classic playmaker than Silva, but I don’t necessarily buy that. Assists are always hard to keep track of and no one seems to have proper stats for Arshavin’s Russian Premier League times (Soccernet claims he got not a single goal or assist in those 27 games in 06/07, but that’s just too much to believe), so it’s impossible to compare the two in that way. I would imagine that Arshavin would have more assists and goals than Silva, but he is also the finished product rather than a 22-year old up-and-comer. Silva is not at the height of his powers, that’s for sure.
It is worth noting here that Silva factored quite heavily in Spain’s championship run this summer. Kevin linked to this graphic in a comment to a previous post, but here it is again. It shows that Silva was an important distributor in the Spanish scheme, receiving the bulk of the passes from Xavi and actually factoring into more plays than any other midfielder besides Xavi. Part of that is time on the field, of course, but it’s also his level of movement through the center that gave him a lot of touches. As has been pointed out, he tends to suck into the middle rather than stay on the outside.
All that said, I was, like most others, very impressed with Arshavin during the Euros. I wonder at his ability to adapt to the Spanish style, but it seems he has the class to do so. He too plays centrally, but many readers of this blog seem to think he can stay wider ala Messi and I would tend to agree with that sentiment. However, he doesn’t have the potential that Silva has. I read him as at the height of his powers and it’s a serious risk that he’ll nose dive in form over the next few years.
Most of you know that I’m not much on splashing the cash around, but either one of these players is well worth €20million (though not more) because of the versatility they would provide to both the midfield in the act of playing and to Guardiola in the tactical sense. I would support bringing in Arshavin more than Silva because of his wider versatility (perceived or otherwise), but they are very similar to me and I would not reject a Silva signing whatsoever.
What is clear is that Barcelona’s Junta Directiva needs to get on this and sign someone before it’s too late. The team has spent a lot of money this summer, yes, but that is a sunk cost and should not preclude us from buying players we actually need. Hleb was the most unnecessary expenditure and it may be that signing that keeps us from getting Arshavin or Silva, which would be unfortunate. That is not, though, to say that Hleb is not talented nor is it to say that a backup for Messi wasn’t needed, but the gaping hole was the left side (and we all knew it before Ronnie left); failure to seal that hole would be the Junta’s major failing this year and could very well spell disaster for both the domestic and European campaigns. Not to put too much emphasis on it or anything.
UEFA Champions League Draw - Friday
So tomorrow is a big day in European club football: it’s the Champions League third round qualifier draw. Win your two-legged affair and you’re in the group stage. It’s the first time in a while that Barça have had to enter this part of the competition, but we’re there and we’re doing it without Messi, [...]
So tomorrow is a big day in European club football: it’s the Champions League third round qualifier draw. Win your two-legged affair and you’re in the group stage. It’s the first time in a while that Barça have had to enter this part of the competition, but we’re there and we’re doing it without Messi, who has jetted off to the Olympics.
Laporta seems worried that the team won’t get into the group stage without Messi, which, of course, is silly to most Barça fans. We’re not known for our lack of faith or expectation, that’s for sure. But imagine, for a moment, what Laporta is thinking: Oh crap, what if we fail!? I’m soooo screwed! After all, he didn’t fair so hot in the vote of no confidence and a major failure at the very beginning of the season after bringing in a new coach, getting rid of two popular players (Deco and Ronnie), maybe a third (Eto’o), and spending nearly €100million on bringing in new faces would certainly spell the end for Laporta’s reign. Laport and Txiki would certainly curl up in little balls rocking back and forth while their assistants attempt to clean them up for the resignation press conference…
Here is who we might get matched up against:
FC Sheriff (MDA) OR AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
Drogheda United FC (IRL) OR FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
PFC Levski Sofia (BUL)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE)
Galatasaray AS (TUR)
FC ?nter Bak? (AZE) OR FK Partizan (SRB)
Vitória SC (POR)
NK Domžale (SVN) OR NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Beitar Jerusalem FC (ISR) OR Wisla Kraków (POL)
R. Standard de Liège (BEL)
FC Twente (NED)
Tampere United (FIN) OR FC Artmedia Petržalka (SVK)
Aalborg BK (DEN) OR FK Modri?a (BIH)
SK Brann (NOR) OR FK Ventspils (LVA)
Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP) OR SK Rapid Wien (AUT)
The scores are in from the first leg of the second qualifying round, so I’ve bolded the teams currently winning their ties. Draws are italicized (and by the way they are listed in order of who plays home first if you want to know who is in charge via away goals, etc). Atleti is also in this draw, but they can’t face off against Barça, so there was no point to listing them as an option.
Who do you think would be the worst draw for Barcelona out of this group? I’m going with Galatasaray, then Dynamo Kyiv then Slavia Praha. I just don’t ever fancy meeting up with a Turkish team with everything on the line.
Let’s hear your thoughts!
Champions League draw
The Champions League draw is out and Barcelona will be playing the winner of the Beitar Jerusalem - Wisla Krakow second round matchup. Currently Beitar holds a 2-1 lead after hosting the first leg in Jerusalem’s Teddy Stadium. What a cuddly name. Beitar, known as ?????? ?????? ???”? ??????? in Hebrew (thanks Wikipedia!), is apparently Israel’s [...]
The Champions League draw is out and Barcelona will be playing the winner of the Beitar Jerusalem - Wisla Krakow second round matchup. Currently Beitar holds a 2-1 lead after hosting the first leg in Jerusalem’s Teddy Stadium. What a cuddly name.
Beitar, known as ?????? ?????? ???”? ??????? in Hebrew (thanks Wikipedia!), is apparently Israel’s richest club, are the defending league champions, and they have on their roster one Sebastian Abreu. If you’re not familiar with this now 31-year old Uruguayan striker, you might go ahead and get acquainted with him via YouTube or Wikipedia. Abreu has spent most of his time in the Mexican Primera division, bouncing from team-to-team. His most successful stint, and the one I mildly remember him for, was his time at Cruz Azul. Other than that, though, I actually don’t know any of the players on the roster.
Wisla Krakow is, of course, Polish and so it’s real name is Wis?a Kraków, with that line through the lower case L and the accent on the o. And now I’ve copied it, so I can write it whenever without worrying about switching my keyboard or remembering the ASCII code: Wis?a Kraków. See? Wis?a Kraków.
I recognize none of Kraków’s roster, to be honest, so I can’t really discuss them. Not even at the superficial level that I did Beitar’s. Kraków did win their league as well, though, so neither can really be taken lightly.
It’s nice that FCB avoided the three teams that I mentioned before, so San Leo’s departure for the azure skies of Beijing shouldn’t be too big of a deal.
Does anyone out there in Commentland have any inside information on either of these two teams?
